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Contacting me about doing cosplay: not photography

Journal Entry: Tue Mar 26, 2013, 7:30 PM
  • Mood: Defeated
  • Listening to: Question Existing - Rihanna
  • Eating: Special K fruit crisps
  • Drinking: Coke


Hey guys!

So I've noticed a trend lately.

I understand that this a common mistake, but I do get kinda tired of people mistaking me for the cosplayer rather than as a photographer.
I understand that when people see my posts on dA or Cosplay.com or FB, they tend to assume it's the cosplayer who posted it and in comments, it's understandable. But I've been getting private messaged or emails A LOT lately from people who are offering opportunities for big projects to do cosplay for, and I continuously have to inform them that I am a photographer, not a cosplayer.
In the last month, I can probably say I've been contacted 10-11 times for those reasons. I just wish people would take an extra 5 minutes to actually research my page, my account, or even in the descriptions, and it would easily be cleared up.

It's kind of disheartening when people ONLY acknowledge the cosplayer and not the photographer who made it visible. Not to say the cosplayers don't do a wonderful job, they do (otherwise I wouldn't have been contacted so much). But I just wish people contacted me because of my photography and did their research before hand.

A small rant, but it has been increasing over time and I just wanted to put this out there. If you're going to contact me, for any reason, PLEASE do your research first. Look at my pages, my bio, my FAQ, all of which can be found on this account, as well as on my FB page. I always put the links in my journals for that very reason.
This also applies to ANY cosplayer or photographer you contact about doing shoots with. Do your research before contacting them. It helps from my having to repeat themselves over and over again.

And since I haven't done a journal in a while, I might as well put it out there that I, unfortunately, won't be graduating this year from my program. I failed a class last semester and I've dropped a few classes this semester, so I'll have to come back for one more year. And I was so ready to be done with school. I seriously just wanna get out there and start working and be independent.
Not the best news, but yeah...

In other news, Cosplay Photographer and Videographers has developed a new networking system so cosplayers can find photog's and videog's in their areas:
cosplayphotographer.net

It just launched yesterday and if you'd like to join, you can just sign in through Facebook to set up an account. Cosplayers can sign up too, but only photographers and videographers will be made public for now.

Thanks you guys! I've gotta get back to some homework. TTYL!

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:bulletblack:new-moon-night DA
:bulletblack:Tumblr
:bulletblack:Facebook Fan Page
:bulletblack:Canadian Cosplay Photographers Facebook Page
:bulletblack:Cosplay.com(karebare89)
:bulletblack:Cosplay.com(LiquidCocaine)
:bulletblack:Model Mayhem (model)

Until next time...

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:icontokidoki-loki:
tokidoki-loki Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
This makes me really sad on multiple levels. It literally only takes a second to read the description and sometimes I think that people really don't take the time to even look at that, which is pretty annoying. As a cosplayer, I am super appreciative of all the hard work that the photographers do to make me look good and I think a lot of people don't realize or appreciate how much work really goes into making an awesome photo unless they have done it themselves or seen someone else doing it. It takes a lot of work from both sides to make something work and each side deserves credit for the final product. It saddens me that people don't give photographers as much credit because you guys all work so hard to make what we do look even more awesome! Like August was saying, you took our simple costumes in a really challenging location and you made everything look so fabulous. It's my favorite set to this day (shhhh don't tell anybody!) You are seriously one of my favorite photographers so you keep your chin up! :3 I know a lot of people that really love what you do!
And about the school stuff, it's always really hard when things don't end up working out the way you want them too. Something similar happened to me recently, so I understand where you are coming from. It's especially hard when you just feel like you want to be done with everything and it feels like school is taking forever. Just keep chugging along and don't let yourself get too down! :hug: I believe in you!
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Indeed. People are just very casual about it, so I can understand the random comments that don't know any better. It's the LONG notes and messages relating to doing a much bigger project that always bothers me.
Aww shucks. You guys are smothering me. :hug:
Thanks hun. I appreciate your concern and I'm sad to hear you went through similar times. Hopefully we can both bounce back. :)
(oh god yeah does school feel like it's taking forever. This is my 6th year in college, 7th next year. I'm so done. I just wanna start working!)
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:iconsntp:
SNTP Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah i think it's a common thing among cosplay photographers i think. I get that mistake a lot to the point where i'm used to seeing it now. I usually just respond: "Sorry I'm a photographer not a cosplayer." Short and direct.
Many of the cosplayers you shoot, I'm sure are aware of just how important you are to them. They know it takes much more than a great cosplay to make a great photo. The photographer/editor does 50%+ of the work too.
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:iconkurama--babe:
Kurama--Babe Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's always nice when people actually take the time to read. It's not the exact same situation, but I understand what it's like to have to tell someone something that can be found on your entries and/or have to repeat it.
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Indeed. Reading it's just the polite thing to do I find. :)
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:iconaugust-fehrmont:
august-fehrmont Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I've noticed that happening a lot to other photographers too and it just seems weird that people don't catch on, considering there may be photos of completely different people on one account... >_> I mean, cosplay photography is a growing field these days so I find myself giving a quick look to the description to see who took the photo, who made the costumes or props, etc before leaving a comment. You're right, it's not like it even takes that long. :P

Especially because in the case of mine and :icontokidoki-loki:'s Samurai Deeper Kyo costumes that we shot with you... my costume was extremely simple but it was your photography that really... made it look awesome @_@ and that credit to you is important! (I'm still very excited about those heheh)
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah, I think it'll take time for people to realize photographers are becoming more prominent in the community and deserve to be shown some props as well. Not even just for me. But other photographers I so greatly look up to, nobody knows their name's, but they know their work if you show it to them. I love what cosplayers do, but the photography needs to be a little more appreciated.
XD You guys were amazing in those cosplays! It's only because you guys were so awesome they turned out the way they did. I had a hard time with the Colossalcon location, I must admit. But you guys nailed it. :)
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:iconaugust-fehrmont:
august-fehrmont Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed, it's a team effort these days. :D

And thank you :P But really, you rocked that location like it was nothing. :P Actually, I have one of the pictures you took on my desk at work!
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:iconyeah-def-not:
yeah-def-not Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013  Hobbyist
Sorry to hear about school, but I hope things will work themselves out soon. Love & support as always hun!
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks hun. :hug:
Btw, I got your message about the gift. XD I figured it would be sent more discreetly. Lol, but I'm glad you like the knives! :D I can't wait for the shower!
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:iconsatsuyurami:
satsuyurami Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013  Student Photographer
Gah, I get that problem often as well! On DA I always write who is the photographer and who is the cosplayer. But they always tough I was the cosplayer! x_x
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Sorry to hear you have similar problems. Here's hoping people smarten up a little. :)
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:iconmelaniewolfrin:
MelanieWolfrin Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Understandable. Same thing with me ;) . I wish they could see the photo instead.
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:iconthebigtog:
TheBigTog Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013   Photographer
This has happened to me a lot before but not as much now. I'm a guy and when other guys say I'm beautiful because all they see is a photo of a cosplayer, I tend to humor them and roll with it for a while until they realize their mistake. I guess I'm one of the few photographers who relish this kind of thing.
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I can see that. I've been told before that I and a few of the cosplayers I've shot look similar or even like sisters when in cosplay, so I can understand if they might think some of them are me.
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:iconkarumen-chan:
Karumen-Chan Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013  Student General Artist
that's unfortunate :<
(cause I've been stalking your DA and fb page)
I would love to contact you as cosplay photographer for a shoot someday! :D
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Indeed.
Hahahaha! Awesome, I'd love to work with you! :D
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:iconkarumen-chan:
Karumen-Chan Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Yayayayay :dance:
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:iconmindfall:
MindFall Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I get mistaken as the cosplayer quite a bit. It's actually standard now in my Deviation descriptions that right underneath the "Do Not Use" stamp is a "please note, I AM NOT the cosplayer". A lot of times, people just see one picture, and immediately fire off a message. It sucks, and it's definitely frustrating, but I find since I've really started doing that, I get less in the way of people trying to recruit my "amazing cosplay" for things. (Sadly, this does not cut down on the number of creeptastic messages that I get from creepers. Which I find hilarious given that I'm NOT the cosplayer XD)

As for college, you have to do what you have to do to keep your sanity. I know that once I graduated, the work world kind of sucked. I luckily landed in a job that I like (even if I'd rather be out there using my degree) Plus, I have to pay back my lots and lots of student loans (here's to hoping you have minimal/none). The work world and all it's ups and downs will come soon enough. Focus on kicking butt and taking names, the rest will come in time!

And I saw a post about the CosplayPhotographers thing yesterday, signed up when I saw it. It's a really good idea, and I'm surprised it hasn't been utilized sooner!
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah, I post in every description the cosplayer first and my self second. I don't mind the random comments so much anymore, it's just the very long and details notes or emails or messages I get from people who want to work with me for a project and my cosplay. All I can think is, "If you really cared, you would have done at least 2 minutes of research and found out I'm a photographer."

There have been a few other attempts at directories, but this is the first time I've seen a regulated and designed format rather than just FB groups or tumblr updates or forum posts. To actually have a directory is awesome!! :D
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:icontechnoranma:
TechnoRanma Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
YeaAhh people need to f*ckin READ before they send annoying messages. I feel your irritation I really do. Here's to things picking up pretty soon, I look forward to more of your photography (you've gotten so damn good XoX!!!).
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Indeed. Juts a second of reading, is that so hard?
XD To 2013!! Tally ho!
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:iconhamano--ayumi:
Hamano--Ayumi Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Ugh, that seriously sucks... It kind of reminds me of the rude people who ask why photoshoots are '~so expensive~' and (in cosplayer's case) the people who send messages just flat out asking "can you make me a part of/the entirety of your cosplay? yeah thanks". *sigh*

That being said, there are always people like that. Sometimes it's people who're just speed browsing and don't read properly, sometimes it's just people who don't understand how much work you photographers put into your stuff. Either way, I don't think it's really your problem to have to keep informing those people of something that they SHOULD have found out for themselves...?

Although I would like the add, that since I started hiring shoots with photographers, I've realized that it honestly makes half the art. Walking around a con and having your costume admired is great, but photos give context and life that you can't get in a hallway. You guys set tone and angle and mood and it's just...awesome! One of my favourite parts of con season is being part of making those photos...and then getting them back! XD It's great fun~ (So watch out, I am so booking you next Otakuthon if you're there again, mwahaha~) At least know that the cosplayers you've taken shoots with all appreciate you and your time greatly! : D

Lastly (sorry this is so long), dropping classes really sucks...but sometimes it's a necessary evil. It's better to take the long road that's survivable instead of burning out trying to cram it all in? (Can you do summer and winter holiday courses instead to speed it along?) Good luck and don't stress yourself too much!
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
yeah, I understand what you mean. It's just frustrating because if I ignore the messages, I come off as a bitch. So I have to end up saying the same stuff repeatedly to different people. It's just tiring.
I agree. I love the work cosplayers do and the energy that goes into it, but when viewing stuff online, I appreciate the photography just as much as the cosplay itself. Bad photography can make a great cosplay look awful. point and shoot hallway photos are the best example of that.
Hahaha!! I look forward to working with you again, and hopefully longer than we had a chance to last year. XD
Thanks hun! :heart:
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:iconhamano--ayumi:
Hamano--Ayumi Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Could you maybe just write a standard message that you can copy paste to each one? (Might make it go faster at least?) D: But I do know what you mean...it's hard not to reply.

But anyway, good luck with everything~!
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Maybe, but most of the time, they messages are fairly specific about what they're asking about, but maybe.

Thanks!! :hug:
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:iconrocknamlee:
RocknamLee Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
I get that problem often as well! I indicate the cosplay was done by "x" whenever I can, its the certain hallway shots which I'll need to indicate I'm not the cosplayer lol.
I'm sorry to hear that you won't be graduating though D : No doubt a damper in your plans... I hope next year is successful *finger crossed!*
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:iconliquidcocaine-photos:
LiquidCocaine-Photos Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Lol, well at least you have a website dedicated to your photography. I bet most of it comes from dA then.
Oh well, not much I can do about it now. Just gotta work hard for next year.
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:iconrocknamlee:
RocknamLee Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013
You can do it!!! : D
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